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« on: July 14, 2008, 01:42:39 am » |
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I don't know of any units currently running Hydroxy gas in their Diesel engines...YET but I am sure there are a few out there.
from what I have read it is supposed to be even easier to use Hydroxy in a Diesel than it is in a gasoline engine you just plumb it into the air horn between the engines air intake and the air filter...
thats it !
I hope to have confirmation on that soon by users ! stay tuned!
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2008, 08:03:56 pm » |
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yeah it works but only to a point, ya seem to hit a wall and more hydroxyl will no longer help.
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« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 05:17:34 am » |
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KOOL ! thanks Randy !
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« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 04:25:38 pm » |
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My 98 cummins turbo diesel gets a 21% increase.
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« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 05:36:09 pm » |
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KOOL... but what's that mean in MPG exactly like what were you getting before and what after kind'a thing... my brain don't work very well on percentages ! HAHAHHAHA
THANK YOU FOR POSTING THAT ! at least we know it does work on a diesel !
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2008, 07:01:22 pm » |
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19 mpg base went to 23mpg. I put the gas hose in the filter box post airfilter just before the turbo. The increase in power was very noticable(even the wife noticed). My egt temps went down an average of 50*F.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2008, 08:17:01 pm » |
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yeah my buddy Tim says his runs cooler and stronger also, he's using 4 LPM now but we tried 6 LPM but the mileage stayed the same as 4 LPM was giving, so he opted to remove the added cells to reduce draw on his electrical system.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2008, 10:17:51 pm » |
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Whats Tim getting in MPG Randy ...any idea and whats it on ? 4LPM should net some reasonable gains eh ? .... Now you have me wondering Randy ... why would a Diesel engine hit a "Wall" and a gasoline engine not?  that boggels my mind.... I can't see a reason for that kind of behaviour can you ? the only possable cause I can think of is if the intake of air in that piticular diesel was small enough so that the Hydroxy gas in the intake is 100% hydroxy gas then yes adding more would do no good... but thats a strech of the imagination ...even fer me ! HAHAHAHHA |
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2008, 11:10:10 pm » |
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not sure why but I think the hydroxy only helps a diesel burn the fuel it's fed more efficiently, you can't really adjust the thing to run leaner, although you could readjust the fuel governor but then you might have a problem with cold starting.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2008, 01:32:46 am » |
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Is it safe to try and lean out the diesel and replace with hydroxy?
This has been a concern I have raised before in the other forum but nobody replied.
I can see it doing no harm in just adding a little bit - same as some diesels have LPG boosting.
I can just see engine damage on a diesel if your replacing diesel - if you want to save diesel make biodiesel or run a SVO operation on your vehicles.
Just my opinion anyway.
If anyone has evidence otherwise please set me straight with this, else i will keep on asking this question until someone answers. I don't have a diesel anymore so it doesn't concern me.
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« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2008, 08:37:09 am » |
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As far as I know You can Lean out a Diesel a Long way from STOCK condition...
My Step Dad added a 6cyl Perkins 350 into his 350ford truck his rolling weight was over 10,000lbs all the time, at first he got something like 12mpg and he was just sick and explained to me why it shouldn't be that way.... after having the injectors rebuilt and tested he had the pump rebuilt as well
he then set to adjusting the engine and got it purring like a Kitten after about a week of constant tinkering and tweeking... the end results were 41MPG loaded with 2 tons of gravel and 45mpg empty
... so MOST diecels will benifit from adjustment...but these newer diesels I have no knowledge on at all
... Sonnyj has a big diecel in his "Office" truck and he knows more about Diecels than I ever hope to
he is a good one to ask about Diecels!
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2008, 12:55:10 am » |
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Here's what I have discovered about the cummins in my dodge. It does have a map sensor, little did I know I even had one. I believe I also have an o2 sensor but haven't located it yet, hence the problem of "hitting the wall" with Hydroxy". Gonna give this a good look after hunting season, don't wanna mess with it now as it's the best "wheeler" I have. Been thru this whole system as it got submerged"thanks honey" in the river a couple years ago. HeHE last time I'll tell her I love that truck better than you.
Anyway ordered 7 carbon graphite disks to build another unit. I believe that this is gonna get rid of my heat problem. Gonna put one randy cell and one carbon cell in the same bath as the problem with the carbon is no heat production to get the output up there. Gonna put a softplug heater on the case so I can plug both the diesel and the generator in at the same time. Well back to the hunting...
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Somewhere between Mt. St. helens and Mt. Adams
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« Reply #12 on: October 23, 2008, 01:10:26 am » |
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OH good greef ! there is smogg stuff on diesels too Another case of "Helping you weather you need it or not!" ... Yes I suspect that the O2 sensor is the problem as in a gasoline engine its purpose is to detect how much oxygen is left in the exhost..if there is too much Oxygen that means the engine is running lean so it adds more gasoline so you don't burn a hole in the piston or seeze the engine up... not a bad arrangement just one that takes a computer to make it work... and if you have a computer in the Diesel truck you can bet you will have the same problems getting it to accept the Hydroxy gas as the gasoline folks do ! .... Don't get LOST out there Losttoo! <GRIN> ... Bob..... |
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« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2008, 01:17:52 am » |
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Got an O2 sensor too. got the min and max voltages for both gotta override them. Lucky me I have the factory shop manual on dvd and the haynes book so gonna do a lot of reading and figuring at elk camp so when the seasons done I'll be ready to "give her hell"
I'll keep posting results but for the next couple weeks I got my Elk eye on.
See Ya'll soon,
Gary
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2008, 10:00:27 am » |
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Hey losttoo ya better wait a till it opens before elk hunting haha I live in yer neck of the woods too, took a cow west of Glenwood a few years back.
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