Electrolite/Catalyst

[Manta]

Hydrotinkerer,

Either drag racing strips or look at the bio fuel sites.  They use it all the time.

Manta

[hydrotinkerer]

Thanks Manta hadn't even considered those places.

[hydrotinkerer]

Have any of you guys ever heard of using calcuim hydroxide as catalyst. Meyers wanted his tubes to form a coating of it. One guy said he started using it as electrolite. I don't even know what it is.

[charley]

I looked up calcium hydride on Wickipedia and found out they used it as a portable way to fill airships with hydrogen.  It combined with water creates hydrogen at a rate of 1kg of calcium hydride creates one cubic meter of hydrogen.

Kinda interesting.

Charley

[Bob]

HAHA LOve the Pic Charley ! I hope my generator never looks like that !
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sounds interesting may be that it can be purchased and used instead of alumimum...
sounds very good to me ...
 got any more tid-bits like that ?
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if nothing else I can make a blimp !
HAHAHHA
Bob.......
 

[hydrotinkerer]

Well I did the same and looked it up on wiki. It has a ph of 12-12.5 and it is used as a lye substitute. To give you an idea of how well it would work the ph of Naoh is 14 and Koh is 14. It is not very far off.

[charley]

We might be talking about two different things here guys.  I looked up calcium hydride.  One of the properties is it "reacts violently with water".  I thought about using calcium hydroxide a while back when I couldn't get enough amps out of the koolaid in my gen but I didn't do it.  Might be worth a try though.

Charley

[Bob]

Yah ! VILONTLY ! thats what I wann'a see.... BIG EXPLOSIONS ! put calcalum Hydride down as a must get right along with the nitroglycern and fertilizer bags ! HAHAHAHA
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I had a GREAT idea when I was a KID that entailed a steam engine and a realy strong tank
put anything into the tank and ignite it and drive for hours...  how long you get to drive depends on how big a boom you can make at one stop/refueling...
corse this would have to be one really strong tank... probably 4" thick steel... and it would look like a propane delivery truck... ...but you could use hand-gernades, old mortars,land mines, surplus bombs.... and all that ... and it would be a way to get rid of the old munitions too.... 
   I told my dad about my great idea and he just rolled his eyes.... I don't think he took me seriously ! ....<GRIN>
...if nothing else it would be a way for government trucks to be powered sense they have an abundance of the munitions.... I suppose some Jerk would probably leak it to the press that they carry 500lb bombs with them as a fuel supply and that would end it real fast !
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but a FUEL/AIR BOMB ! now that can be done real easy with a mist of gasoline and air !
and you'ed get a complete burn, not just a portion of it and do it all at once and save the pressure for later use.... so what if you gott'a fuel the truck in a bunker ! with remote control...just incase you use a bit too much.... minor details !
a 2 min refueling stop.... set the parking break  go to the bathroom and when your a LOOOONG way away press the remote control on the re fueling and listen for the sound of a Muffled Bell.... if you find your self on the ground with bleeding ears and nose you know you have to walk home....again....
...well, maybe it wasn't such a good idea after all !
 HAHAHAHAHAH
Bob........

[charley]

Look on the bright side Bob.  No more worrying about making bubblers.  No more wondering "Is that flashback arrester reeeeally gonna work." 

Just click BOOM and away we go!

Charley

[hydrotinkerer]

Hey Charley is that a picture of Bobs briggs trying to start.

[Bob]

Yah you know... instead of trying to Prevent the explosion ...make it happen and use the pressure generated to power the motor ! ... makes sense to me ... but some how I just don't think it'll catch on.
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hehehhe
I remember a guy who made a Hydrogen powered car had a 10 gal tank in the back of his hatchback laying sideways and he fueled it up by  adding water and then a carefully measured amount of carbide that he added in a sealed manor to the tank... and it would go BONG and the pressure guages would jump to their new position.... ... he drove the car for about 2 years or more and one time while stoped by a sirvice station on the side it let go , killed him and injured a few other people there poked holes in the building and  all sorts of nasty things....
for ages after that Hydrogen generated cars were dangerous as heck ! it got lots of coverage by the media...even got the north state on national TV !
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but he was just making Hydrogen with that reaction... what if he was trying to make High pressure !
...bet it wouldn't have lasted 2 or 3 years ! HAHAHAHAH
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I read a study on high pressure containers one time that said the usefull life of such a container was something like 5 years because of the trimdious stress involved...
1200psi that the oxigen bottles have in them are good for 10 years if I remember right because thats fairly low but wen you get into the tens of thousands of PSI  things become very plyable ...
one tank in the study gained 1/2" in diamator when filled  it was at Cape Kennedy I think used to hold liquid oxygen for the space program... they routinely XRAY the tank for fractures ! so far its still togather and hasn't blown up yet !  and its been there sense day one of the space program ! HAHAHA
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people just don't realise how Volitle high pressure is... mean just doesn't cover it !
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My Dad worked at Arrow Jet general bit many years when I was a Kid and when the ground would shake in L.A. we'ed rush to Mom and Dads bedroom and wait for the red phone to ring ... it alwayse did...thank God...  but that was when something went "not according to Plan" out at Arrow jet!
it cracked the plaster in our walls one time and we lived 20 miles away.... that was a bad one
killed 6 and released bad toxic gas and leveled the test bunker....
at the time Dad was working with the "Exhotic Fuels" experiments... some of the stories he can tell ya are realy amazeing ! ... they had a fuel and Rocket motor that could put a man on the moon for a thermos bottle full ! ... but it was worst than hazordious...
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anyway... steam engines ok  with a good old fashoned boiler... but a tank to contain a explosion? I think I'll pass on that one ! HAHAHHAHAHAH
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Bob......

[Bob]

Hydrotinkier:
Unless you want a pic of me with my toung hainging out panting like a race horse, there ain't much to show for my efforts yet ! HAHAHAHAHA

[charley]

That's pretty good.  I can just see the advertizing campaign, "Bet you're Briggs won't do this on the first pull!!"

Just saw Scratch's video.  That's impressive. 

[hydrotinkerer]

I just ran across this guy using this for electrolite. I quoted his post.

you can simply mix a few teaspoons of baking soda in a glass of white vinegar. Add baking soda only a little bit at a time, as the mixture will foam up at first and if you add too much at once the vinegar will spill out of the glass. Keep adding until the baking soda does not dissolve anymore in the vinegar: you now have Sodium Acetate. Add 30% of it to distilled water and you'll have a great electrolyte and huge HHO production - much better than using baking soda alone.
You can dip a 9V battery in the electrolyte to test that it's working, the bubbles will form at the anode and cathode.

I thought it was interesting. Might keep the plates from coating over? Also might get more amps than koolaid?

[randy]

you can try it but I'm thinking you'll build an abundance of goo