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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2008, 05:09:44 am » |
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COOL Alaska Has my vote then ! but not acitone ! that will desolve my ABS pipes!
...20% Isorb--- whatever Alkihall <GRIN> is easy to come by... I shall pick up a gallon next time i am in walmart... ( if they got it !)
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Yeah Bob you're right that acetone will have an adverse effect on ABS,that thought never crossed my mind when I read it.If I remember right acetone is used in the ABS cleaner and does make it soft as soon as it's applied. I think it would be a good idea if I edited that part out so no one trys it and ruins their generator. Thanks for pointing that out. Rusty |
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2008, 06:37:08 am » |
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well, thats probly not nessarry as it may work fine with PVC pipe I dunno !
...Acitone is so mean that it will eat the handles off of puddy knifes left in a pan of acitone OVER NIGHT ! ....My Dad ans I use allot of Acitone in cleaning up after useing bondo or fiberglass
...its good stuff, but I'll pass on it as an antifreeze myself !
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2008, 08:47:22 am » |
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I'm looking at some pvc cleaner(purple) and acetone is one of the first four things listed that it contains.
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« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2008, 09:00:23 am » |
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Ugh... not a good idea to use acitone on PVC then is it !
...do what ya feel is nessarry I figure if the guy is that dumb he needs to have to replace his container! HAHAHAHAHHA < ahem.... sorry!>
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« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2008, 09:11:27 am » |
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Sorry I posted this somewhere else on this fourm. So here it is in the correct place:
I but some distilled water and 20% rubbing alcohol (99% isopropyl) in the freezer and the next day at 5 degrees I had a firm slush.
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« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2008, 09:13:30 am » |
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I'd rather have slush than froze rock hard(broken container).
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« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2008, 06:48:25 pm » |
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I'd rather have slush than froze rock hard(broken container).
Gota agree there,slush is better than solid,it won't take long to thaw after the power's turned on. |
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« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2008, 06:55:03 pm » |
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Now that I have thought about it. It would be my opinion that the water (for the most part)is what freezes first. That would make whatever electrolite/catalyst more concentrated. That would make your gen pull more amps thereby thawing it out that much faster. I thought I would also tell you guys it got really cold here last night. 45*F Brrrrr  |
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« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2008, 11:38:34 pm » |
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dat ain't cold yet ! I still have Frozen Hail on the ground from about 4 days ago...because it hasn't been above freezeing here all week ! My shivers have been shivering !... I got more cats and dogs on my bed than any man should have to put up with ! but they are warm little monsters!...
I wonder if you can hook a heat pump to a box full of pussycats ? now there's an idea!
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« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2008, 07:35:44 am » |
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Bob sounds like you need to put the lawnmower and electrical generator experiments on the back burner and get that hydroxy house furnace going to avoid the three dog nights,at least till spring gets here!!!! HEHHEHHEH Down here in Florida we can do that with just a couple of smacks booster running full blast and not have to use the hydroxy just the heat they generate !!!!!!! hahahaha.
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« Reply #40 on: November 08, 2008, 08:07:10 am » |
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Well, it was 9 degrees here last nite. It will get to -15 a few times this winter here in northern Arizona. So firm slush may not be the ticket. Last nite I did the same experiment (20%) but with denatured alochol and this morning at 0 degrees in the freezer no slush at all! Randy's right again. Go with the denatured alochol.
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« Reply #41 on: November 08, 2008, 02:06:51 pm » |
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Tink: I've found that Crazy Fisherman to be fairly smart on a bunch of things, never sell that guy short ! HAHAHAHAH I think that feller has more bulbs lit in his house than most of us could hope for ! <GRIN>
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« Reply #42 on: November 08, 2008, 03:51:55 pm » |
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My wife makes wine(drinks her fair share too ha-ha) and I asked her if a hydrometer would work and she said that the hydrometer was only used to check the sugar content of the wine not the alcohol content.I guess one sure way would to occasionally draw a sample and put it in the freezer.
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« Reply #43 on: November 08, 2008, 05:05:35 pm » |
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Why wouldn't a refractometer work. Automotive use them for measuring antifreeze and battery acid. I think with the mix your going with then use a refractometer and record your readings. When the readings change you know to add your type of "antifreeze".
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« Reply #44 on: November 08, 2008, 05:16:17 pm » |
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Why wouldn't a refractometer work. Automotive use them for measuring antifreeze and battery acid. I think with the mix your going with then use a refractometer and record your readings. When the readings change you know to add your type of "antifreeze".
They might work but there're about $100 on e-bay.I think I'd go with the sample and freeze method. |
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