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« Reply #90 on: November 18, 2008, 02:14:24 pm » |
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I have some de-icer washing fluid I just found. I don't know if it's what you just tried, but it took the ice off my windshield this morning with no effort. Ice didn't even reform.
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« Reply #91 on: November 18, 2008, 03:22:18 pm » |
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If it has alcohol it doesn't work with my cells anyway, just added 25% glycerin, seems to play well with my mix of vinegar, k-aid, distilled water, no noticable change in amp draw, with the washer fluid amp draw went down.
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« Reply #92 on: November 18, 2008, 03:45:01 pm » |
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OK cell is fully warmed, pulling 12 amps, no adverse effects noticed YET.
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« Reply #93 on: November 18, 2008, 03:52:59 pm » |
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gas check "BOOM" good gas, hahahahahah, gonna let it run a little while longer, get a sample of fluid for freeze test.
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« Reply #94 on: November 18, 2008, 04:14:15 pm » |
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One of the important differences from the experimenters point of view is that they each attack metals in a different way. This was (is) very important in the bio-diesel world as it effects the parts of your fuel pump.
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« Reply #95 on: November 18, 2008, 04:32:51 pm » |
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I've copied & pasted the following paragraph. Anyone aware of what this suggests will happen ?  Glycerin is a potential feedstock for hydrogen production because one mol of glycerin can produce up to four mols of hydrogen. However, less attention has been given for the production of hydrogen from glycerin. The objective of this study is to develop, test and characterize promising catalysts for hydrogen generation from steam reforming of glycerin. |
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« Reply #96 on: November 18, 2008, 04:42:17 pm » |
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As glycerine is a byproduct of the biodiesel reaction it would be interesting to find a use for the tubs that are accumulating by my shed.
But you do need energy to make steam. So what would be the net gain, if any ?
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« Reply #97 on: November 18, 2008, 04:47:53 pm » |
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so far the glycerine has had no visible effect on the test cell, one big bonus in my eyes is that there is no countereaction with my preferred electrolyte, as far as more production it doesn't seem to have bettered or worsened the output, have a sample in the freezer now, just put a very small amount in a paper cup, should have results within the hour.
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« Reply #98 on: November 18, 2008, 04:55:54 pm » |
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Manta, A World glut of the stuff because of this.
You pee on your exhaust pipe..... What do you get ?
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« Reply #99 on: November 18, 2008, 05:09:11 pm » |
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Manta, A World glut of the stuff because of this.
You pee on your exhaust pipe..... What do you get ?
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« Reply #100 on: November 18, 2008, 05:13:42 pm » |
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OK sample should have frozen by now but hasn't, pointed my infared temp gun at the fliud in cup, 19 deg. I think we've got a winner, I got the stuff I used at a health food & vitamin shop, It's called NOW personal care vegetable glycerin 100% pure, there's a website on the bottle, URL is www.nowfoods.com I'm really liking these results. you'll find it under body bath and personal care. creams oils & clay listing. |
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« Reply #101 on: November 18, 2008, 06:16:17 pm » |
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More pasted babble......
Increasing biodiesel production has resulted in a glut of glycerin that has led to a precipitous drop in market prices. In this study, the use of glycerin as a biorenewable substrate for hydrogen production, using a steam reforming process, has been evaluated. Production of hydrogen from glycerin is environmentally friendly because it adds value to this byproduct generated from biodiesel plants. The study focuses on nickel-based catalysts with MgO, CeO2, and TiO2 supports. Catalysts were characterized with thermogravimetric analysis and X-ray diffraction techniques. Maximum hydrogen yield was obtained at 650 °C with MgO supported catalysts, which corresponds to 4 mol of H2 out of 7 mol of stoichiometric maximum.
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« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2008, 06:31:49 pm » |
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great all I gotta do is get my cells running 650 deg C and I should have great production hahahahahaha
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« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2008, 07:14:45 pm » |
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Well so much for my purdy new test cell container from Mallwart, it's developing cracks all over, probably from the heat. the glycerin is still being good, thanks for the suggestion janmarsh, I believe it's the answer.
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« Reply #104 on: November 18, 2008, 09:37:53 pm » |
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OK now the sample in the freezer is showing some slush, but way better then a hard freeze.
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