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« on: March 18, 2011, 04:48:50 am » |
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this below is a cut and paste from "hho4free.com"
looks like these boys are On the ball here and we are being left in the dust ! LOL
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Truck running on HHO, no other fuel (?)
Inventor Frederick W. Wood, and his associate, David Seigler, from Future Energy Concepts, Inc., claim to have converted a Dodge 2004 pickup truck to run on nothing but hydroxy gas, electrolyzed on-board, and on-demand, via a super-efficient electrolysis (from water) method they have developed.
They say their system produces 55 liters per minute on 55 amps; and that they recently (around Aug. 15, 2010) completed a road trip of more than 3000 miles, running on this set-up
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at that site "which is well worth visiting guys!" he mentioned that it was discovered long ago how to dissisoiate the gasses in water very easy by using "RF frequiencies, tuned to the plates capasitance"
this is How the above 55LPM on 55amps is accomplished.... Not our old brute force methods, but as Bob Boyce said adjusting the frequancy of the square wave to get maximum output !
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Actually this is nothing new, we all have hurd of the signal generators and pulsing units used on some cells.... but Nothing to my knowledge has actually achieved results like this!
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I am impressed. that is one good site there and I wasn't pressured into buying ANYTHING ! very odd I know but its a fact ! LOL !
... You guys that can read faster than me (anyone !) see what you can find in the way of information
stuff we can use.... looks like they've come a long way already !
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its also nice to see that 55lpm will run that 2004 dodge truck....
more than likely a 2.5liter engine
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I googled Stan Myers and found a site that had some info on him and on Whoozits Brown they named Browns gas after.... there's 3 videos that I noticed for you with allot of bandwith !
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I think we need a schematic diagram and instructions on how to do all this ! HAHAHAHHAH!
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2011, 02:23:09 pm » |
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I'll definitely be looking into this one.
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janmarsh
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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2011, 03:29:16 am » |
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As H2+0 says, Future Energy Concepts Youtube channel has now closed. I was a subscriber to the channel & was following things with interest until alarm bells started ringing. " Fast Freddy " & his colleagues finally started coming over as a bunch of scammers....... sadly.
Their were numerous interested subscribers following the channel, some donating. To cut a short story even shorter, Fast Freddy & his performance figures were cut to ribbons & proved to be highly suspect........ the channel finally closing
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My Wife admits to maybe having faults...... but being wrong is'nt one of them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2011, 04:09:49 am » |
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Yeah; the last post from the site said they achieved continuous idle, but needed to pull over after 5 min to allow re pressurization, which killed the battery, this post was after the claim of driving many miles???
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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2011, 04:15:11 am » |
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My Wife admits to maybe having faults...... but being wrong is'nt one of them.
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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2011, 09:02:23 pm » |
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Hummm
ok that's not looking good at ALL !
Thanks guys for the help on that one !
I went looking for more info on it and came across a controller that was FCC approved for emissions that was supposed to boost the output of any cell up to 70 times!
using the resonant frequency RF pulses ploy.... but unfortunately they want $600.bucks for the BASIC unit and the plans KIT was $1200 bucks !!!
if these clams are even half way close and give even 50 times the normal output that would make a single randy cell producing the normal 2LPM produce 100LPM.... to me it sounds too good to be true so it probably Isn't !
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what it looks like is the scammers are getting better at what they do ! unless I see hard evidence to the contrary I think its a pipe dream.... but you have to wonder about the RF pulsing of the voltage going to the cells and the clams of the Old boys saying that it does work and work very well !
.... I need a Oscilloscope and a RF frequency generator to test this and I have neither! Bummer!
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2011, 09:09:03 pm » |
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LOL hell Randy You achieved a "Continuous Idle" on your truck years ago ! , that's how I got my numbers for running a truck on 100%..... and its not 52LPM either.
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as I have said many times before getting Lots of LPM is NOT an easy task... I think the only way to achieve it at this point is through the "Brute Force" Method of Electrolysis with a bunch of good High output cells like the "Randy Cell" .... and at a mear 2LPM each it will take a bunch of cells and allot of amps to get there !
.... but it can be done and trucks do run on it..... so who will be the first ? LOL
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« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2011, 08:09:33 am » |
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Scams aside, there seems to be a lot to that frequency modulation. It is still "brute force", the same method we use currently, the difference is that the frequency of the electricity is being controlled while we do not.
I have done a ton of reading at the HHO Underground about this frequency stuff and there are some plans there that can be made for a whole lot less than $1200. However, there is a lot of soldering circuitry, not one of my main strengths. If someone here can solder that little stuff, it would be great if someone could build one and do some tests. I feel pretty good about it working as I can understand the reasoning behind it, and hopefully by the end of this year I can have a working one myself. I will need a lot of soldering practice...
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« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2011, 01:22:07 pm » |
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I'm not sure but I think "Scratch" might be able to make one up for ya , you might email him and ask...
he hasn't checked in in many moons though I dunno what happened to him!
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I'ed be very hard pressed to make any circuitry stuff any more...can't see, can't hold stuff still...
its a real bummer... but I might be able to make myself one if I had a schematic to follow .... and a parts list (grin)
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I agree that this frequency controlled PMW may well be the boost we need to get our cells producing large amounts... but that remains a big Question mark for the moment... maybe it will, maybe it won't
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« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2011, 01:53:33 pm » |
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One thing I know for sure is reduce heat, when you power up a good working cell and disconnect power it will continue making gas for some time.
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« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2011, 03:52:00 pm » |
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« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2011, 04:49:00 pm » |
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Thanks Randy I'll have a Look-see at that !
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