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« on: May 10, 2009, 09:16:28 am » |
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I suppose that you have all noticed it as well. The reports and things have really dropped off in the last two month. Not just here but on other sites as well. Have people finally done the sums and found out that it won't add up ?  Manta |
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Cowboy
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2009, 01:24:20 pm » |
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I'm sure it's a mixture of things, that being one of them. People are too focused on things outside of experimenting, a lot of people have lost their jobs as well. I don't know how much the economy has affected the hydroxy world, but it has had to have some of an impact. Another player is people adjusting to the fuel prices and calling it good enough. Too many variables playing a part to lay blame on any one item.
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Bob
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2009, 01:58:17 pm » |
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I agree with Cowboy on that one...
Due mostly to the "Echonemy" (or how ever ya spell it) is why I have been so busy as of late, having to move locations from here to the Ranch
is taking all my time and effort , and that leaves no time for Hydroxy generator building....not to mention the money for the parts.
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with my experiments I have done myself I have given myself enough proof to know that the Hydroxy gas Suppliment system does indeed work...
but I want more than that , I want to go completely 100% hydroxy gas... if at all possable...and not have to buy gasoline at all !
...I do not know for a fact that I can do that yet... but I "Believe" I can.... enough to where I will attack the problem with all my might in the near future, as soon as conditions allow it . !
...on top of all my other Problems I still have 4 cars to move 50miles
each... I do have a tow-bar... but my little pickup will be hard pressed to move 3 of them, the o'l Dodge truck will have to be driven on its own I think.... after all, the way I look at it is their too good to throw away, so I gott'a move them ! HAHAHAHA
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the Hydroxy Gas "Supplemental" system does definitely work... in fact I get a Kick out of Manta's "Skepticisms" that seams to always re surface <GRIN>
A number of people here, have proven that much for themselves over the years...
Although I would like to dispel any and all doubts toward that fact, the problem is , you simply cannot prove it GOOD ENOUGH for some people
to believe it.... for those eternal Skeptics I say build a unit and make it work on your car and you will see that it actually does work !
... even a few MPG is worth the effort because it cleans up the emissions of the car dramatically ! and a few MPG is money saved at the gas pump EVERY time you fill-up.
FEW of us have had Large changes in MPG... I'll be the first to admit that....but afew have indeed got more than 20MPG increase.
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its not easy... its a complicated can of worms when you get into it
Especially when you add the newer fuel injection engines into the mix.
but it can be done...
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FWIW
Bob......
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Tink
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« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2009, 08:54:45 am » |
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Guys,
It's the economy and also that a lot of us have discovered it is going to take a lot of money and effort to get a system we want. In my case if I can get 50mpg out of my old Toyota I'll be happy. But that is going to take a few more hundreds of dollars more and I have to wait till I can scrounge up that kind of dough. I haven't given up. I'm just waiting for more cash flow. Gotta rebuild my front end again. These dirt (unmaintained) county roads (where does all my local tax dollars go?) just keep me in repairs every few years. You know I live in the 2nd poorest county in the nation. In the resort areas nearby it is nothing to see a million dollar vacation home on a dirt road. they are everywhere up here. Anyway I'm just glad to have a job so I can be enjoying my retirement years! I've been playing around with the new Smack dry cell bassed on the Boyce design. Really nice but not feasible to go ove 16 to 18 amp on each unit or the electrolite burns and makes a mess. But I do get over 1 and 1/2 LPM at that amprege. So it will take 2 of these on a dual battery set up and bigger alternator. The EIFE is working but with one of these single dry cells I only get a 2 to 3 MPG gain.
Don't give up, ever...
Tink
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randy
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« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2009, 09:54:32 pm » |
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I haven't given up at all, with all the freezing weather I get around here I had to drain the cell and wait for spring, well spring is here but I've been really busy and just haven't had the time, My goal for this year is to mount the 200 amp alt I've got, completely isolate the cell from the trucks electrical system except for the relay control, finish the 132 washer cell hehe I started building last winter, system should hold 3 or 4 gallons of electrolyte, after last fall I learned my lesson, I'll only use k-aid and distilled de-mineralized water, if I get it right It'll fire up pulling 60 amps, we'll see. Besides those exploding balloons were too much fun.
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janmarsh
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« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2009, 10:26:43 pm » |
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Randy,
Will this be configured Four set's of three in series or that more recent idea you have had ?
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Manta
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« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 01:58:15 am » |
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Interesting replies. Anyway, I'm away on holiday for the next two week. See you all later.
Manta
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randy
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« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 10:49:19 am » |
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No, all on 2 sticks of allthread, 1 cell, I'll power it from both ends to reduce resistance. my fingers are going to be sore hahahahaha.
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ROADKING
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« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 04:19:19 pm » |
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I am still working on cells and having some good luck still, however at this time all I can do is mow, mow, mow, from all the rain we are getting. Hope to start on a new cell shortly.
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Losttoo
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« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 09:28:05 pm » |
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Not that HYDROXY is dying just that 2 dollar gas took the fight out of most people. I have been watching in the backround and learning from everyones mistakes. Currently working on three cell carbon fiber cell. Three seven plate cells in series, Had too put 225 amp alt. onboard to power but this thing really pours out the hydroxy and little heat which seems to be a problem and I am now working on heating the electrolite to get the amps up. If it ain't one thing it's another. Well gotta get back to the school work, got myself enrolled in college going for AAS in Automotive Technology, so I got my hands on all the good equipment. Let ya'll know how it goes. Have a GR8 day from Washington State,, Gary Lee www.talentmatch.com/garylee |
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« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2009, 01:29:21 am » |
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Losttoo,
Tell us about the carbon fiber, where do you get it and how are yo using it?
Thanks,
Tink
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charley
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« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2009, 11:09:59 am » |
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Hi guys, Well here's my update. I haven't given up by any means. I quit this winter when it got too cold and then my Toyota pickup I was experimenting on croaked. Temporarily I hope but it's getting antifreeze in the oil which I think is a intake gasket but beyond me and I haven't got anyone to work on it yet. Guess I'll have to drag out the charger and use that. I do think that cheaper gas prices have had an effect but that is starting to change. Our prices have went up 20 cents or so in the last couple weeks. Anyway, there's my list of excuses.  Charley |
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Bob
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2009, 09:54:12 pm » |
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yah you know the gas prices won't go down <GRIN> just UP !
sounds like a head gasket to me Charley ! so plan on pulling the entire head off and replaceing the head gasket !
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charley
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2009, 10:52:32 pm » |
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Crap!
You're probably right.
Thanks Bob.
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Cowboy
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« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 11:44:01 am » |
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Just my $0.02 on the subject, but since it is a Yoter with a blown head gasket, chances are that you'll have to get the head resurfaced. Take a straight edge and go corner to corner, and straight across in various spots on the head to check for warpage. Wouldn't hurt to check the block to, but the head is the usual culprit. This is especially true if you had any heating issues before you noticed water in the oil.
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