What goes ON HERE ?

[Bob]

this is for general discussion its open to the public and anyone can read it... only members can post however, this is to keep some of the "Spambots at bay"
You can post what you like HERE....
but keep it clean please!Any "Dirty Jokes" are frounded on remember Childern do read this when Daddys back is turned !"Nasty pictures" of any Kind are not tollerated and you will be deleted without any warning if you post such... so make sure of what you Upload PLEASE!
...My Daughter and I run a TIGHT ship and don't allow things that hurt other people.
but in spite of that we believe in having fun and joke around quite often, feel free to join in on the fun!
Bob.....

[oldntrd]

Bob,

I believe I read a post of yours telling about your experience and lack of results with water injection. I had about the same results too. You mentioned something about injecting or bubbling deisel that might be devoloped. Reason for this is that we know deisel produces more power than gas but does not work in gas engines . What would happen if a little deisel were injected into a gas engine with the improved burn ability of hydrogen helping it?

If yo do not mind I would appreciate a little more info on the system you were using and indications of a positive outcome.

R

[Bob]

Oldntrd:
 I don't mind at all !
I used a 1 gal Mason jar with an Aquarium air stone on a short length of vacume line,arranged
so that the airstone was at the bottom of the jar and the top of the line stuck through the lid
which was silled up good with silicone .
another longer piece of vacume line came from through the lid next to the other line for about 2 feet and a needle valve was incerted in the line and the line continued to the vacumeport
at the base of the 2 berrol carberator... between the 2 berrols so the mist would go to both sides...
I adjusted the valve to where the bubbles were staying very tiny but a good flow... about 1.4 turn open is all it took. open it too much and you get big bubbles and you don't want that you want to aireate the liquid. as many small bubbles as you can get.... 2 or 3 airstones works good too !
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I ran stright water in it for some time... the increase in MPG was negliable. if any...
but I do think it helped to de carbin the cylinder heads  ....
I then got the bright idea of putting Diesel in the Jar instead of water because it would help lube the top end and aid the gas/air explosion in the cylinders...  which it did very well.... the car did not smoke when it was adjusted properly and 1 gallon of diesel fuel in the jar would last 3 or 4 tankfulls of gasoline....
but remember this was before Catalitic converters  doing that now will carbon up the catalitic converter rather quickly......
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the engine ran Smothe as silk and the more I turned up the valve the better it ran
I got to the point I was useing 1 gallon of Diesel to 10 gallons of gasoline  I was getting much better gas milage but I am not sure what it was I think the car normially got 28 to 32mpg and I was getting 35 to 38mpg... not much of an improvement in fuel milage but the proformance increase was well worth it !.... I think this was back in about 1985, I was driveing from Vinton CA. to Reno NV. every day for work.... a good 45 miles one way .
We were going to town( Reno ) one evening in the fall for dinner out and I hit a piece of firewood that dented both rims and flattened both tires on the right side... the impact was so massive that for a while we were driveing on the left 2 wheels and the right side of the car was up in the air in about a 45 degree angle !  ... I think that is when the jar got its big crack in it as it was only held down by a bungi cord !<GRIN>
after that it busted apart and I never found another jar....at that time I got interested in makeing a fuel vaporizer.... which did work one time and I got over 80mpg but only 1 trip of about 1000 that I did heheheheh
I heated the gasoline on the exhost manifold and ran it into the carberator the engine would stagger and sputter for a while untill all the liquid was gone and then it ran on vapor alone by turning a knob on the dash.... the problem was as I discovered later was that the cold air was turning the vapor back into liquid before it reached the cylinders... so I needed a hudge hot air heat rizer for the intake....
about then all hell broke loose financially the gas boon dooglething hit, we moved to Fernley nevada... and about never got back to the project....
but I do have some what of a gas vaporizer on my Dodge truck that does work untill you try to move ...then it sucks too much air and re condenses the gasoline.... so it starts staggering.
I need to maintain about 150 degree heat going into the intake and that should keep the gasoline vaporized and net me anywhere from 150 to 200MPG... or so it is supposed to ...
I dunno I never even got close to those numbers with vaporized gas....
... the Hydroxy thing has way mor potential to me...as I can dispense with buying that expensive gasoline completely if I can get the Output of the generators up to a larg enough output ! ...and that is worth the hassel of figureing it out !
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hope that helps
Bob.......

[oldntrd]

Bob,

Thanks for the info.

My goals are the same as others here but I do not see 100% Hydroxy anytime soon so I am looking for improvement type solutions for now. The boosters many are using are a fantastic first step but we have a long way to go. The very few who are able to make enough hydroxy then have the problem of control to take care of driveability problems. Your use of deisel might be helpful as a control aid or possibly as a suppliment for those of us that cannot make enough hydroxy. Might prove useless too but the more choices we have the better.

R

[Manta]

Just tried to get onto the generator site.  Can,t do it. Only get to the front page.  Has the site gone under ?

Manta

[Bob]

Knowing Dan Wells he JUST NOW KNOTICED ! HAHAHAHAH
he's probly trying to fix it... and the only way he'll do that is by deleteing ALL the members and starting over... saveing the known good members only....
there was over 2000 members but only 20 some odd regular people....maybe 30 at the most...
the Spam bots have a raft of user names they can use to get in any time they feel like posting the crap they do .... thats the bad part of having a free open to the public forum even for a short period of time...
it takes constant checking to make a forum run smoothly, not once a week or once every 2 weeks
you have to be concerned and involved with the forum... some have it ...some don't
if the Administrator needs to take a break or will be gone for a time there needs to be some one appointed to take care of it... other wize you get things like what just happened on there....
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I think I can do better, and we all will be better off !
thats why I started this forum... for the betterment of us all, to further the technology available to us ... spredding the word so to speak...
Forum Followers are a Fickel group... they don't put up with much garbage... I know I'm one of them !
you see no advertisements and you will NOT see any here...you can POST pictures here and don't have to link to another site unless you want to...
makeing it simple for the user is very important...
I want this site to grow and be the first to boast cars running on 100% hydroxy gas alone...
not for My profit, infact this costs me ! but for the profet of its members.
but I cannot do it alone... it takes the Users to make that work !.... in time it will !
....
Bob........

[Manta]

Generator site is back up,  but all the porno is still there.

Manta

[Bob]

HAHAHAHHA !
Bob.......

[randy]

Makes a guy wonder what Dan spends his time doing.

[Losttoo]

I got all the time in the world so Bob if you need a gatewatcher lemme know. Let's not let that happen here.

Losttoo

[Bob]

Thanks Losttoo !
I appreaciate the offer and will keep you in mind, but at the moment I want to keep the site without "too many chiefs and not enough Indians" as I have seen that destroy sites as well...<GRIN>
I may well need help in the future when I move off the mountian to the Ranch once again and I may be out of contact for a few days... if and when that happens I will let ya know !
...
Bob........

[scratch1676]

bob your picture is scaring me

[Bob]

HAHAHA NO DOUBT !
but I wanted everyone to see me as I realy am... I ain't trying to impress anyone ! HAHAHAHAHA
guess I succeeded eh ! HAHAHAHA...
man even my dog is better lookin than I am ! and I got one Ugly Mutt ! HAHAHAH!
oh well nature has a way of of giveing people one special gift... guess mine ain't buity! HAHAHA!
Bob....