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Bob
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« on: March 16, 2009, 07:32:38 pm »

Hay All...
from what I can get from Hydrotech's new cell design its fairly simple and allot like Stan Mayers of Old.... its a tube type  8 tube cells each with a 3/4" Surgical grade Stainless steel
tube with a 1/2" solid  surgical stainless steel rod as the inner electrode...
he has mentioned that the thickness of the metal realy makes a hudge diference in output...for reasons unknown... and that the High grade stainless steel is a MUST....everything must be NON-Magnetic grade...
 I don't know the thickness of the 3/4" tube wall but guess it must be fairly thick...
their length is 6" tall  pluss the electrical connectors for each tube... I am guessing but John has been putting his cells in 6" PVC Pipe containers, so I think you can fit all 8 cells in one container.
thats about all I know of his design so far and sense John is so busy I thought I'ed help him out and post this much, its easier to correct me than write the whole thing I think!
HEHEHEHEHEHE
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so does that sound about right John ?  I know its unproven as of yet but, it will give the guys an idea of what your up to !  and that Dry cells are not the only answer to the Generator problem!... as your tube cells seam to out proform everything !
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Bob......

   
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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2009, 03:36:00 pm »

Hey Bob would that be hydrotech's new cell?
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2009, 04:15:27 pm »

Yes! hehehe ! Hydrotech and Hydrotinkierer to me get confizilated in me head
...its ment to be Hydrotech's new cell if I can get that accross anyway !
... I must be gettin old!
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heheheh
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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2009, 06:56:02 pm »

Anyway...I corrected that Hydrotinkerer thank you for the heads up !  some times I wonder about me !
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All in all from what I can figure out the Tube cell is far and away superrior to the flat plate cell... simply because it "USUALLY" has more plate area...
Oddly enough it seams as if the plate area on the pos plate and neg plate does not have to be in balance as one would think... seams to me if the larger of the 2 tubes is the negitive plate then the production takes on that of the negitive plate, regardless of the plate area of the positive plate.... which is kind'a weird but it seams to work that way !
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I Know from what John (Hydrotech) has told me that his first tube cells were hand crafted tubes
in order to get the spacing close.... He arrived at a 1/8" spacing on one set of cells and it worked very well indeed. so I am thinking that he more than likely stayed with that spacing.... which would make his 3/4" tube cells have a very thick wall ...which goes along with his heaver metal idea that he has been playing with !
so I am guessing at a 3/16" wall thickness to 1/4" wall thickness for the 3/4" tube.
putting a 1/2" solid rod inside that would be very close indeed ! WHICH is great...because that is what we want!...
with a bunch of these things in a single container I bet the output is surprising indeed
but I'll wait for the Expert to give us his evaluation of his new creation !  I have a gut feeling it will blow your socks off ! run cool and not take many amps to run it !
I am Hoping he will achieve more than the 10amps per 1LPM that the rest of us have seamed to be grounded upon... if not I think we can be assured that the 10:1 ratio is going to be natures maximum limit for power needed to produce HHO.
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Although On the other Forum Hydrotech usually only got on the computer on the weekends due to his busy schedual... I am sure his input will be of great benifit to us all !
all we gott'a do is get him to POST every once in a while ! HAHAHAHAHAH
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Bob..........

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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2009, 05:15:55 am »

Bob,
I don't see why the outer tube wall thickness need be very great.  1 mm would do.
Here are a few figures that would seem to be somewhere near.

Centre rod  is 1/2"  diameter.  gives 9.426 sq ins for 6" long.

Tube has 3/4" bore.  Gives 14.14 sq ins for 6" long. (internal surface)

So the maximum surface area is 14.14 sq ins.

The easiest way to make this thing is to get a bit of 3/4" bore stainless pipe. Everything will be nice and even. No messy welding to cause distortion.

Just a thought.

Manta

p.s.  The sun is shining,  the weathers fine.  I'm off to make some biodiesel.  You guys remember that stuff ?  Very popular a few years ago. Grin
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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2009, 06:04:10 am »

Attaching the tube cells can be a problem making your electrical connections to tube cells is something Hydrotech has been doing for a long time now and here is part of his answer so far...
he has incerted a stainless steel bolt into the end of the 1/2" solid stainless steel
he said he made the hole undersize and then heated the end and pressed in the thredded bolt part..
....very ingenious I think !
heres a pic he sent me so you can get an idea of what he is doing!
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Bob......
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2009, 01:10:25 pm »

Looks as if he is using ss tube.  That gap looks bigger than 1/8" though.  Neat work.

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2009, 03:12:18 pm »

Yah  High quality Stainless steel 3/4" O.D. tubeing... wall thickness is unknown
but looks to be about 1/8" wall thickness or maybe more.
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I agree on the gap... it looks fairly big... but then  again John has alwayse liked the wider gaps...
if I could get him to use 1/16" gap his output would probly double ! HAHAHAHAHA
....but he don't do nuttin' without a reason... so I am sure there is a reason for the larger gap...
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Come on John Hannon clue us in on this cell of yours !

HAHAH!
Bob........

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