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Author Topic: PICS OF MY 9"x9" PLATE DRY CELL AND INSTALL  (Read 2737 times)
hg2
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« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2009, 08:16:50 am »



  Here's some pics with the new e-lyte recovery bubbler with the 1" drain routing back to the reservior tank,that worked flawlessly.I also added two more inlet fitting for better HHO flow.
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« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2009, 09:02:26 pm »



 

  Unfortunately I've got some disappointing results to post today.The other day as you remember I was estatic with the reults of 6.88 LPM after installing the new e-lyte pump.Well it seems that data was flawed due to the air space in the primary fluid recovery bubbler was being displaced so rapidly that it was adding a false LPM flow because the e-lyte being pumped in so quickly that was forcing more flow out than there was actual hydroxy output.

  When I did a flow test today after installing the new bubbler with the larger drain that doesn't let the e-lyte fill the bubbler like before,I found that my LPM were still around 5LPM.

  It was disappointing to say the least to see that my LPM's hadn't increased like I thought.One good thing that did come about for all my time and expense is that the cell is operating now at a much lower temp.than before so in the long run at least it will be somewhat more efficient.

  Sorry folks for posting flawed data but I didn't see that one coming.
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« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2009, 10:52:06 pm »

Not a Problem Hg2... happens to all of us <grin>
if you think about it there really is no way that increasing the flow of water to the cell will increase your HHO output... amps yes...water no...as it is surrounded by water all the time anyway!
...but You have nothing to be ashamed of there buddy, 5LPM and running Cool is a great accomplishment ! and not to be sneezed at ! ... I would be ecstatic if I had that much output!
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 I love the pop off cap on the bubbler... be sure to tie it down though or you'll loose it !
I had mine pop off due to pressure and it luckily got cought in the fender well or it would be along the highway somewhere !
I drilled a tiny hole through the lip of the pop off cap and tied it to the bailing wire with some nilon cord... that way the wing nut isn't hampered for checking the water level!
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Now get some mileage figures with 5LPM going into that engine ! I bet you'll be happy about the results !
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Bob........

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« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2009, 01:56:18 pm »



  Bob thanks for the advice to tie down the pop-off,the thought never crossed my mind.They're less than $5 but who wants to have to buy another.
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« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2009, 05:01:47 pm »

I'm with bob on those popoff pressure test caps, I have a hole in the plasterboard of my spare bedroom roof shaped like the wing nut on top of one of those.  I was testing a flashback arrestor design, any guesses what happened? LoL! Cheesy Cheesy Grin Grin
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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2009, 07:08:05 pm »

Painless ! your supposed to be doing that in the garadge not the spare bedroom !
HAHAHAHHAHA  or at the very least OUTSIDE!
when I was trying to start that 5hp briggs & Stratton engine on Hydroxy gas it fired back almost every time it turned over... and almost every time the cap would sail a good 200ft in the air !.... I can't throw one that high !
sounded like a shotgun going off !
had to wait a good 6 to 8 seconds to listen for where it landed !
hehehehehhe
with the 3.5hp Briggs it don't do that... because it has points under the flywheel and the 5hp didn't.... so I adjusted the spart closer to TDC than the 5hp could be ... thats the only diference between the two engines beside size.
 and with enough HHO I am sure the 3.5hp would run... I just don't have enough yet!
...most I got was about 8 chuggs in a row....just not enough HHO is all.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2009, 07:18:10 pm »

Hg2:
  I don't like the Kinks in the plastic hoses they will restrict your flow  a bunch
and probably kink completely off when the electrolyte is warm/hot...!  I bet if you drive it a few miles the return line will be kinked 1/2 way closed and the other line (clear one) completely shut off....
 You might try bailing wire and tie down the hose further down to help ease the Kink area
and make it a slower bend.... that or put a short piece of stainless steel tubing in the hose where it kinks at...
that or replace it with a much longer hose and give it enough slack as to not Kink so bad !
... Having a KINKY Line is not a good thing on Hydroxy generators... a Kinky line on other things may be ok but not on HHO ! HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
...gott'a watch you boys every second I see ! <GRIN>
HEHEHEHEHE
Bob....
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2009, 09:16:25 pm »



 Yeah Bob I fixed those kinks you see today,used a 1" 90ell for the drain,and the other drain tube that's kinked was the one I had before and had an extra 3/8" 90ell and just installed it for a backup.I would've gotten away with just a 3/4" drain because even with the bit of a kink in the 1" tube the fluid had no problem flowing back to the reservoir.

  One thing I did notice today was that no foam builds in the bubbler using a large drain like this it all goes to the reservoir and floats on top and quickly dissipates before it can cause any problems,the feed to the pump is on the bottom so no foam gets to it at all.Anyone that has a foam problem can easily correct it using this design.
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