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Manta
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2009, 12:22:57 pm »

Hate to say this,  but tin cans aren't made of tin.  They are coated mild steel.  That is why they stick to magnets.  All the things in the wiki list are part of a group known in the metallurgy business as 'white' metals.  Non of the white metals are magnetic.

Jake,  your throttle body is likely to be made of die-cast aluminium,  maybe even the hated mazak.  Either way you will be better off getting a new one as the stuff is damn near irreparable.


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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2009, 04:32:18 pm »

well I put a magnet on the thing and it's not magnetic at all. I hope it ain't that mazak stuff Manta but it's lookin like your diagnosis is right. I'll try a few more things before I give up on it though
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2009, 06:04:31 pm »

Interesting............. I have never heard it termed Mazak....   "Shitmetal"  is the most commonly used term I am familiar with  HAHA.

                                              WWW. mazakmender.com    It's expensive though. Seems as though people are having trouble contacting them......probably a crap product & has been withdrawn

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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2009, 08:08:22 pm »

I suspect that Manta is correct again as I have suspected that tin cans were actually steel in sheeps clothing because tin is poisoness to pack products in ... they learned this back in the 1800's... so it is quite possable that Tin is non magnetic... and that I have never realy ever laid hands on true TIN in my life ! <GRIN>  I do know that solder is not magnetic and it has lead and tin in it... and if tin were magnetic it would be attracted by a magnet and it certainly ain't!.... so looks like Manta Won on dat one ! HEHEHEHE 3 cheers for Manta ! you keep teaching us all the time ! don't give up on us Manta ! we're getting there <GRIN>
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2009, 11:10:15 pm »

Bob,
        The traditional Tin Can is plated in tin to simply create a rust resistant surface, both inside & out.

It works fine until you try to contain the likes of fruit containing citric acid, etc.   They react with the tin plating & break it down.   A further plastic skin is added to the inside faces in the case of fruit can.

Tin ore has been mined in England for thousands of years. Melted down & alloyed with copper..... you end up with Bronze.   When Stone Age man discovered this he started what we all now know as  The Bronze Age.

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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2009, 06:38:49 am »

Janmarsh,

And that led to the need to pump out the tin mines and then to steam power and the industrial revolution.  Three cheers for Cornwall. Cool

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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2009, 06:43:49 am »

I wonder if the tin mines could again become viable........... with commodity prices going up ?
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2009, 07:24:38 am »

I would think they will.  With modern mining technology it shouldn't be a problem to get at the harder to reach minerals.  Not far from where I live are old lead mines. The spoil heaps from them were processed for Barium and Barytes to use in the paint industry. I understand that lead is a byproduct of Uranium.  So maybe there is still a lot of mining to be done.  Also copper was mined in the south-west of the country.

There may not be gold in them thar hills;  but copper will do nicely.

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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 10:47:08 pm »

I have to admit it.   I gave up. 
 I found a throttle body at a junk yard and for 35 bucks my truck is runnin again.
Had to though cuz my wife's car bit the dust so she's drivin the truck now. I tried welding, soldering, jb weld, and superglue on that old one and nothin worked. never did find out exactly what kind of metal it is. maybe that mazak stuff. maybe alluminum. definitely not magnetic and definitely not repairable. (at least not by me) Cheesy
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