100% hydroxy scooter

[numberonekiwi]

Hey found something interesting

http://pesn.com/2009/01/17/9501513_100percent_Hydroxy_scooter/

Check it out and try to pick out if it's true or not

[Bob]

Is it true? I don't doubt a bit that it is... I've said for months now that 100% Hydroxy gas would run an engine and many people have already proven that for me, although I have yet to do it myself... but you see the Numbers problem that was played with in the artical ?
"Your not supposed to get more out than you can put in" and these guys latch onto that first thing..... when in reality your not getting out more than you put in at all ! infact your getting out about 80% of what you put in in a good Hydroxy cell... the rest goes to heat
but its what you can do with that Hydroxy gas that is so important !
he was running a 49cc engine on 1.5LPM of hydroxy gas...BUT, HE should be able to run 100cc engine on that much ! easy... but never the less it does work,now if he can fix up a charger to follow him around on the scooter he's got it made, but the electricity has got to come from somewhere.... the motor that he is useing is too small to do BOTH, and move his fat butt too!
so he needs more HP... if its going to be truely self contained... without a bigger motor he is doomed to failure or battery life only
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Your CAR on the other hand has excess power and can generate enough power to both move the car and power the chargers for the batteries.....
... so if that artical inspires you, then fix your car to run on 100% Hydroxy gas! IT WILL WORK !   ....
  NO REALLY !
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Bob....

[numberonekiwi]

Yeah I know 100 % is probable on a car but as you picked out and what I read and understand about 49 cc bikes is that it outputs the equivalent of about 2KW now using around 800 W for the hydroxy unit does not leave much to haul butt and machine but a car that you can put a 2.4 KW alternator on is different ( I think )

At least he is able to idle the engine alone and accelerate it in a controlled environment ( with no real load )

[Bob]

Yes but people have done that with 3.5Briggs & stratton engines before and thats equivelent to 125cc or so.... although I don't know of any one throttleing one up and down other than opening up the feed valve to the engine more, and that leaves allot of room for improvement!
the interesting one was when one of our guys here on the net filled a big balloon and ran his truck off of it for over a minute... that was impressive !
he figured 12Liters of volume to run the truck for 1:20 so that gives you an idea on the volume needed... yes its allot but not so much that it cannot be reached !
that was ofcorse just idleing and probly a very RICH mixture of Hydroxy gas at that
but still it gives us a great deal of hope that it can be done!
...I figure even if I have to get a 30hp vtwin Briggs and Stratton to turn 4 200amp altenators
feeding the 30hp engine is far better than feeding the big V8... but if your going to go that far , why not feed the 30hp as well !?!?!?!?!
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you could make a large box to fit in the back of a pickup bed, have it self contained
and use it as a CONVERTER to power the truck useing Hydroxy gas alone...
 the problem is,....what is it going to take to control the engine completely, a new carb?
or what... we have to control the gas from the generator into the engine some how, and
so far the only way I've hurd of people doing it, is with a simple valve and closing off all air.... and you KNOW that is inefficient !
so our experiments are going to have to evolve into ENGINE control, or we will be stuck with Hydroxy gas as an additive alone!
....
Bob........

[Pilot Guy]

Hi Bob,

I'm glad to see you still remember my Balloon experiment on my Ranger.
I was able to idle my truck with the Fuel pump turned off for over a minute on the 12 Liters of HHO.
The amazing thing is.... I was able to throttle up to just over 1000 RPM before it started miss firing from fuel starvation on HHO.

I wonder if any one else has tried to run their car or truck on an HHO filled balloon.
My truck has over 150,000 miles on it so I suspect I might have a leaky Fuel injector that may still let some Gasoline leak into the cylinders from residual fuel pressure while the fuel pump was turned off for these tests. It's not like a motorcycle engine where I can completely turn off the fuel.
The engine was running on the HHO filled balloon until the entire contents of the balloon were squeezed out.

If any one does try this please remember to have a bubbler with an EPD in the HHO line between the Balloon and the engine for your protection!!!
I wouldn't want to hear about one of my HHO friends finding out how big of a bomb a 12 liter HHO balloon can turn into.

From The Pilot Guy

[Bob]

Hay Pilot guy ! good to see ya again !
 Say! did you use any restriction on the balloon or what ? how did you feed it to the engine in that test ?
... my most important question I guess is this, did you run the engine till it quit after turning off the fuel pump?  or in other words is there anyway it could have ran even half that time on residual gasoline left in the system ?
...12liters in a balloon I am guessing would be a fairly big balloon ! say 3ft in diamator ?
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I am guessing , but I amagon you hooked the balloon to the output of the generator and ran the generator till it was full...then with the line from the bubbler to the vacume at the throttle plates you opened the valve to the gas and hit the starter ?
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please explain how you went about it in detail,  because that is really the only incident of a car engine running on 100% hydroxy gas that we have.
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I understand that you reved it to 1000rpm before it started starving for fuel...
which to me means for a 800rpm idle you were probly running fairly rich ...right ?
which means you probly could have ran quite a bit longer if it was adjusted leaner....which would change the amount of LPM the engine needs to run at idle...
if you get what I am saying ! <GRIN>
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so 20LPM or 25LPM should get your ranger to 2000rpm maybe 2500rpm, and that would be enough to cruse on flatland fairly good I'ed think !... even if you had to have as much as 30LPM
to cruse at 65mph.... I think you could fit it in the ranger somewhere !...
at 10amps per 1LPM you'll need 300amps to power it for 30LPM ( if you can get the 10:1 ratio on a larger cell or mutable cells)... so 2 200amp altenators should make that truck a 100% hydroxy powered truck.... all ya need then is the hydroxy cells !
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you got work to do ! HAHAHAHAHAH
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Bob........