New guy

[stl_hemi]

Got the info on the site from anouther member. Just saying hi.

[charley]

Hi Paul,

Glad you found this.


Charley

[Bob]

Welcome Paul !
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I changed your name in your profile like you wanted !
...Glad to have you with us ! the more the merryier! HA!
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Bob.......

[stl_hemi]

Thanks guys for the welcome. I recoginize a few names on here.
I'm one of the Hemi Ram guys who's got this working finally.
3 mini tero's in a series. Milage up from 13 winter 15 summer to 18-20 winter. Summer is unknown yet.

[Bob]

HAHHA well thats a good accomplishment Paul !
bet that 20MPG sure feels nice when you stop at the gas pump now ! HAHAHA !
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even with such a big Dodge it works ! ...
...the neet part is you can get even better but you have to start cutting back on the gasoline some how in order to see it !
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Hydrotech got over 74MPG from his big Duely truck with 3 large tube cells but he had worked extensively on reduceing the gasoline the engine gets... sounds to me like thats your next step!...
his work is found on Hydrogenerator.cc which is probly your best bet for info on what he did.
although he got Pissed off from people calling him at 3:am wanting him to put one on their car... and hasn't said anything sense. !
...good luck  and gather all the info you can !
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Bob........

[hg2]

  Hey Stlhemi I see you made it over ok.

  If you have any trouble deciphering Bob's spelling I have the code to break it down from mountainman to english.

  Sorry Bob I just couldn't resist.    hehehehheh

[Bob]

HAHAHAHAH !
... Hay Hg2 ! I'm a guud speller ! I know letter combonations that can make the same sound
better than anyone ! just because its not "Propper english" means Nuttin ! why I've raised it to a fine art... and if my english teacher could see me now the'ed probly faint !
It takes extra care to find the WRONG letters ! contary to what some people may say !
but I come by it naturally ! its a gift ! I admit it ! and I'm darn good at it...TOO
... some look at it as a curse, but not me ! I take it as a blessing !  there are so many ways to spell the same word that the so called educated people Miss just because they don't apply themselves !...
and getting the "Accent" into a typed conversation is not an easy thing to do... so Even though You may think I am just a crummy speller, I am actually spelling like this for your benifit! How else can you understand what I say if I don't say it properly??? not only are my words hard to desifer sometimes but so are my ideas so its a must to fully get the idea accross to ya !  ... if I was to use proper english and peragraph structure You guys would not get half of what I'm thinkin'  so this is for your benifit !   don't think of it as "this guy couldn't spell if I tied a dictinary to his neck !" ( which is probly true, because as I said I come by this naturally!) think of it as "Desifering Education!"
...the more you read  the more confuzed you get on How that word is realy spelled ! that a good thing, because it makes you think ! Seee !? 

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<grin>

Bob..

[stl_hemi]

Nope I'm good.

[Bob]

stl_hemi:
Ahhh you say the sweetest things !...
 we all know it takes work to figure out what I typed, I guess  you like the challenge !
HAHAHHAHAHA
Bob.......

[stl_hemi]

I'm a carpenter. I can't type. Can't spell for crap.
It's all good Bob

[Bob]

Fantastic ! Now when you figure out how to make a Wooden Hydroxy generator By golly ! You'll have the planet by "the short and curlies" !  you can market it as a Green-GREEN Solution to the gasoline problems... grow your generator and then save gasoline ! a truly renewable Resource for saving the planet !
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Now.... what wood is the most conductive ? failing that... how do you plate Oak strips ?
.......you'ed have to seal the wood very good but heck its far cheaper than stainless steel!....
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I could see a Mahogany box in the back of the pickup inlaid with brass do-dads and vines
to hide the electrical wires ! I'ed look cool ! HAHAHAHA
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with a log pressure tank and a tree frog on the branch still left on the log. <GRIN>
with a bumper sticker that says "SAY NO to OIL"  . oooh yah I could get carried away with that... ...HAHHA !
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hehehehehehe
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Bob...

[sritter]

Hi guys.  I'm new here too.  I just built a Tero Cell and I'm hoping someone here might have some insight to the cause of my problems.  I have built a couple of different designs before this and can't seem to get my amperage up high enough except for my first one (I called it the "heat generator").  This lastest try is two Tero's in parallel (but within one housing) and my total current has not gotten over 4 amps.  I am using a 28% KOH solution with distilled H2O, and my plate area is around 26in2 per side (below the electrolyte).  I am only getting about .3 lpm.  From all of the forums I have seen, I should be getting much more than this from a single tero, much less a double.  Anybody have any ideas that might help me get the amperage up?

Thanks

[Bob]

Howdy Sritter !
...first off what is your plate spaceing ?
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2 things effect the amprage... the electrolite solution and the distance between the plates
sounds like you have very wide spaceing if not try running a richer concentration of KOH and distilled de-minerilized water and see what you get...
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normially on a submerged sell we keep adding KOH till we get about 1/2 the amps we want and when the cell warms up the amps will climb as well...
but going by a precentage is very hard for me to guess at what kind of concentration that realy is because I don't do it that way HEHEHEHEHE
I go by teaspoons per gallon ... if that helps ! but I have very close plate spaceing too.
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when in doubt try a 30% KOH solution and see what that draws !
if thats not enough go to 40%...
somewhere along the line you will reach the point of "saturation" where adding more KOH does not change the amps at all... that leaves you only one way to go after that... put the plates closer togather ! ....
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Hope that helps....
and welcome to the forum!
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Bob........

[Bob]

I said 2 things effect the Amp draw... actually the wires do too if their too small
the hook up wires need to be very big if your drawing more than 10 amps
like #8 or #6... and if your running it Any more than 4 feet you need #4 wire !
htat is huge wire and its hard to work with ... but you will get no losses from the wires heating up and robbing the power ! ( very important in this game)
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Bob.........

[hg2]

Hi guys.  I'm new here too.  I just built a Tero Cell and I'm hoping someone here might have some insight to the cause of my problems.  I have built a couple of different designs before this and can't seem to get my amperage up high enough except for my first one (I called it the "heat generator").  This lastest try is two Tero's in parallel (but within one housing) and my total current has not gotten over 4 amps.  I am using a 28% KOH solution with distilled H2O, and my plate area is around 26in2 per side (below the electrolyte).  I am only getting about .3 lpm.  From all of the forums I have seen, I should be getting much more than this from a single tero, much less a double.  Anybody have any ideas that might help me get the amperage up?

Thanks

  Welcome to the forum sritter lets see if we can track down your problem.

   First off what size plates did you use and how many? If you followed the tero plans and used 8 plates this would be an amp and output flaw.The Tero plans call for 8 plates which have been found not to be efficient.The spacing between the plates should be at least 1/8" or less if possible.

  When you say you ran both in parallel what configuration did you use?By this I mean are the plates configured something like this -nnnnnn+nnnnnn- using 15 plates or -nnnnn+nnnnn- using 13 plates?

  Also I've found that using more than 30 % koh by weight in a tero cell does not further amp draw or output.30 % seems to be the limit of usefulness of koh,at least from the % testing that I've done with my tero cell I saw no change from using 30 % as opposed to up to 45 %.I think your problem may be in either construction or plate configuration or maybe both.

 Two other questions regarding you e-lyte mix,did you use only distilled water when mixing your e-lyte,and the actual amount of koh was it about 1 lb.koh per 1/2 gallon of distilled water(which is 28 % by weight) or other?