LTCFISHER
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« on: December 04, 2008, 08:23:27 pm » |
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Hello, will soon be starting a new cell design using Platinum core and a Stainless Steel case.
Has anyone tried using these two in a cell for a tube type cell.
I am thinking along the lines of a dual core system, all test so far indicate output to be higher then what I have done in the past and still be controlable.
BASIC INFO: SST. case charged POSITIVE two identical Platinum cores charged NEGATIVE both self contained in the SST. case. A total saturation system, ( O2 ) to one bubbler for exhaust, dual output on HH, fed a expansion tank then through the regulator and into the injectors.
The end GOAL is no gasoline. My current avg. fuel cost is $3.00 per month (gasoline) with over 2000 miles recorded on present cell. Yes if the cell runs out on HH the truck comes to a hault slowly until all HH is gone. Ditch water worked fine to get me to work and back home. I Love passing up gas stations.
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charley
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2008, 09:04:01 pm » |
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That's a pretty cheap gas bill. Good job!
I'm curious about the platinum. What kind of a core? Is it something you found or made? Interesting.
Charley
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LTCFISHER
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2008, 09:08:34 pm » |
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It would be nice if I could make it, a good friend of mine gave me a 20 x 4 inch chunk of it.
Going to try and get 5 cells out of it.
Charley have you tried this material?
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charley
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2008, 11:11:02 pm » |
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No, I havn't made one out of it. I'd like to but don't have the materials. It should work really well though as it won't corrode and it is a much better conductor than stainless. I am pretty sure that some commercial units use platinum. It'll be interesting though. I wonder what happens when you use a platinum plate next to a stainless. Good luck.
Charley
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Manta
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 11:37:54 am » |
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With Platinum at around $1,185 per Troy you have very generous friends.
Manta
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LTCFISHER
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 11:52:29 am » |
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I had no idea of it's cost. I checked into the two metal's and they work great together under extreme heat, but can not find out how well the platinum will work with 30 amps.
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Manta
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« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2008, 12:07:15 pm » |
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LtCFisher,
Are you sure that it is Platinum ?
I would be interested to know what the sheet weighs. It seems odd that someone should give away something like this. I would worry a bit.
Manta
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LTCFISHER
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2008, 02:44:25 pm » |
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I guess it weighs about 2 to 2 1/2 lbs.
He had about 6 pieces just laying in his shop. some are bigger then the one he gave me.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 01:05:30 am » |
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Humm...$32,000 - $48,000 worth of platinum. Wish I had your friend as a friend...Don't think I'd use it in a HHO generator tho. But hey, if $32,000 sounds worth it, go for it...It hurries most on here to afford Stainless...
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Manta
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 11:14:33 am » |
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LcTFisher,
I notice that you intend to make the steel case positive. Most cars in the UK, and I think in the US, have a negative ground system.
If this case touches your chassis then you will have big problems. Wouldn't it be easier/safer to make the case negative ?
What are your reasons for making it positive ?
Manta
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LTCFISHER
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 07:25:37 pm » |
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My thoughts of using a SST. case/tube would give me a 360 degree targit for the negative electrons to hit, I would have to insulate the tube of course using a 4 inch rubber pipe cap two of them will work fine for that part.
The tube cell insulated casing and a negative platinum negative core which is round also. I think if I stack 3 neg inside the sst. tube I should be able to control it.
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Bob
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2008, 01:55:29 am » |
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Sorry Guys for moving this topic on ya but I am trying to keep the PLANS section strictly
Plans for working generators...
Quite a few people have suggested that keeping a board just for the plans alone would be a good thing, and I agree... makes it easier for people to find working plans.
but we can BS about ideas and possable make up for generators here all the time <GRIN>
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sorry for the inconvenience !
Bob....
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2008, 02:50:21 am » |
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I'm thinking that the metal is Platinum Coated or PLATED... like an anodized piece of metal or perhaps chrome.
coating or plating is fairly easy I have found... I put a brass welding rod in a bucket Pos of my charger connected to it and put something metal in it on the neg lead both held suspended on a stick over the water and let it set for 24 hrs with the charger going...
it was barely registering any amperage...but it coated the piece of metal I had on the neg clamp with a nice layer of brass, looked real neet !
I took it to the wire wheel and unfortunately it was so thin a layer that it came off fairly easy... so probably 3 or 4 days would get a good coating on there of platinum, gold or even silver all of which would probably help the conductivity of stainless steel in our cells.
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I was thinking of Copper plateing my stainless steel washers for a Randy cell
but thought better of it because of the GOO it would probably produce because of the copper
...but Say an Old Silver fork out of the kitchen drawer might be the answer !
coat the stainless steel washers in Silver ! make silver plated washers ! HAHAHHAHA
... its a thought !....plate your own !
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Bob......
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2008, 06:50:04 am » |
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Bob,
In front of me I have a test cell with two 5" * 2" copper plates. I ran it for just ten minutes in plain water at 1.8 amp and got a nice layer of green gunge on the bottom of the jar.
Guess that answers your point.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2008, 06:54:55 am » |
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LcTFisher,
If you could give me the exact dimensions (length, width, thickness, weight) it would be possible to work out the specific gravity and then compare it with that of Platinum. This would tell us if it was plated or not.
A practical use for the old Archemedis principle.
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