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« on: November 29, 2008, 06:02:09 am »

I figured I'ed post some of my better cell designs here.
although they are not tested, it might give some of you people some ideas !
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I'll start with my drawing of a bubbler for those that don't know what one looks like
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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2008, 06:05:42 am »

This one has 7 large plates in a Parallel hookup.
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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 06:08:52 am »

11 plates same as above , welded bar to bolt hookup in parallel
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 06:12:28 am »

Same 11 plate design with bolt on hookup to the plates, parallel hookup
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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2008, 06:14:11 am »

Smaller 7 plate design with bolt on Hookup.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2008, 06:18:55 am »

Super Large 15plate?  with Explosive pressure relief valve , bolt on plate connection.
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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2008, 06:24:23 am »

And Finally the 7 plate 12"x12" cell with EP Relief valve, note sitting angle is at an angle and gas take off at top right so gas can excape better. Bolt on plate hookup .
... this is the one I plan to build.
if you'ed like more info on any of these  just say so.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2009, 10:02:31 pm »

here is what I think is my best design so far.
 its a type of "SCRATCH's" design with some suttle changes...
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  This is a Dry cell, 12"x12" plates in a parallel hookup so every plate is powered (no neutral plates)
I maximized the whetted surface area in the cell by orienting the cell so the corners are up and down instead of having a flat side up. this should get a better flow of gas out and electrolyte in.
Also as a part of the cell I made a recirculation tank with cooling fins clamped to it to help cool the electrolyte faster... from here the gas goes out to the bubbler.
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with this arrangement a higher Running amperage should be able to be used without over heating
but sense I have Not built the cell I really have no idea if that's true or not.
...higher amperage does mean higher output as well as higher heat, sense I have delt with the higher heat issue a higher than average LPM output should be obtainable from this cell.
However, its large and does not lend itself easy for instillation "Under the Hood".
as with "Scratch's Original design" it would be better fitted in the back of the pickup, where you could add another cell and a bigger Recycling tank,and perhaps a circulation pump for good measure.
as he already did.   His design is probably the best I have seen in a very Long time, for LARGE LPM Outputs...however the Output is directly proportional to the Amperage used and unless Large amperage amounts can be obtained the cell will only produce the normal amount.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2009, 08:58:05 pm »

 Here's another one... Patterned after Bob Boyce's design. its a 61 plate (60cell) series Cell unit
designed to run off of 120vDC, so a person can use a AC/DC inverter to power it... its plates are 6"x6"
and Bob Boyce's design of this size achieved 41LPM if I'm not mistaken, although he had many more goodies such as a large toride coil and a massive PWM set to the resonate frequency of the cell.
if you want LARGE production I suggest this one !
...on the cell drawing you can see a Explosive pressure relief valve,and 2 white tubes exiting the cell on the right side, the larger of these tubes is the gas outlet line, it has many holes drilled in the top of the tube ( on top to keep water/electrolyte) from splashing in it).
the smaller of the two tubes is a electrolyte distribution tube at every cell there is a small hole between the plates so the electrolyte can fill the spaces between the cells... personally to me this looks iffy at best, but it keeps the cell working as it should, where a small hole in each plate would cause current leakage and negate the entire idea of this high production cell. would a small hole in each plate change that much ? who knows... I am thinking that it probably wouldn't hurt it too much and the constant electrolyte level gained by the holes would be worth the risk!(perhaps if a 1/8" hole was drilled near the bottom of each plate in a staggered pattern(one on the right next on the left etc,etc.) the loss from current leakage would be minimal? but I am just guessing here.)
so the long smaller tube could just be a 90deg El connection to the electrolyte supply and a on off valve.

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