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« Reply #120 on: December 13, 2008, 07:17:33 am » |
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Candyman55, No doute it will happen, but it may take a while. I would really like to be the one to do it but until next March lack of funds prevent me from getting an old single cylinder petrol engine to experiment on. My other option would be to use the engine in my Manta 1.8, but it is outside. And like Bob, the winter is setting in here and we have had snow and ice with temperatures at -4C for the last couple of week. Too cold for my old bones to be subjected to for more than a few minutes at a time. I could put a small engine in the shed. So for the time being I am limited to experimenting with little cells. But on the bright side I just bought a multi-channel data logger so that I can record all the changing parameters at the same time. It's quite interesting. I'll post results as they come in. Bob, I know how you feel about the cold. For years I worked outside in all weathers fixing vehicles. Not much fun. You need to get a big shed built; top priority. One man; one shed.  We'll find out more as we go along. Wonder who will be the first to report valve failure due to hydrogen enbrittlement  Manta |
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« Reply #121 on: December 13, 2008, 05:34:22 pm » |
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Show OFF !
its only 24 degrees here for the high today.... Just send any extra hot air over this way it'll be put to good use.... Lord knows you got plunty at your place ! <GRIN>
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« Reply #122 on: December 14, 2008, 08:04:07 am » |
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Yep, that extra 0.8 degree F makes me want to run naked through the fields of clover. Well, maybe not quite naked.  Manta |
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« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2008, 05:42:29 pm » |
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Well I gots about 2" of very light and fluffy snow on the ground this morning... so Light and fluffy you can sweep it away with the broom...so that is a good point ! its not so bad when its like that ! looks like we'll have a white christmass here again this year ! ...temp was in the teens somewhere last night, probly in the low 20's now makes me want to move in with Tink in the bananna belt ! HAHAHAHAHAH I mean after all Arazona is the perfect place for Gyrocopters because there are very few trees to fly into ! mostly just sage brush and sidewinders to worry about ! HAHAHA! ... but unfortionately Tink is not in the low lands he's high in the mountians too I think so he's probly getting snow too ! HAHAHAH .... HAY TINK ...how do you keep the snow off those solar panels anyway  ? <GRIN> ... Bob......... |
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« Reply #124 on: December 16, 2008, 09:04:11 pm » |
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Well,
I'm back. Did get some snow but not much. I learned that the area I live in is called 'Hole in The Clouds' by the native Americans. This hole only affects a few square miles. This must be why my batteries always go to float faster than other peoples batteries. Anyway we missed the big snow that happens on the Mogieion Rim south of here. And in Sunrise the big skey lodge gets the really big snows at 10,000 feet. We're having a very mild winter so far. Temps in the afternoon are in the high 40's to 50's. We'll get a few sub 0 nites even as low as 15 below. I usually don't go through more than 2 cords of wood a year. Bob, I use a swimming pool brush with a 20 foot collapisable handle to brush off the snow from the panels. You know when I was growing up in Pennsylvania a white christmas was when it acctually snowed on the day. We always had snow on the ground but it had to snow on Christmas to be a real white Christmas. Yea, and the trees here where I live are short but 20 miles south they are 1 hundred feet high. The best land is on the Apache reservation. No sidewinders here but we do see mountian lions and elk and mule deer and analope and javalina everywhere. An occasional Mexican wolf and coyotes come right up to you and want to eat your chickens.
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« Reply #125 on: December 17, 2008, 04:53:51 am » |
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we Live about 50 miles from the Peek of Mt. Lassen ....as the crow flies...
and have 100ft pine trees all around us we live in the shade ALL the time !
thats why I havn't gone with any solar stuff here, but at the ranch that will be diferent!
because there is lots of sun there !
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we have Mt.Lion ( I kicked a young one in the head a few years back for trying to eat a baby racoon !..) Black bear, bunch of deer in the warmer months, squirels, and bunnies,skunks
and even wolverines, and the occasional, Coyote and fox ....
We nave never had any bear problems here because we alwayse have dogs... but One time something was prawling around that I dunno what the heck it was and the dogs would not come with me.... so I desided they were smarter than me and went back and hid out with them ! HAHAHHAHAHAH
I figure it was eather a big-bear of bigfoot ! one or the other ! HAHAHAHAH
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one thing for certain if the Volcano here ever rumbles I'm outa here fast ! 50Miles isn't far enough away thats for darn sure ! HAHAHAHA
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we have a good 12" of snow out there now.... I went to town yesterday and got studded mud and snow tires on the wifes car so we're in good shape now !
sure took a big bite out of the bank though $220 for 2 frigging tires ! and .... and get this ...AND I had to take the tires off and hand them the tires before they would mount them on the rims.... can't put just 2 studded tires on have to put on 4.... GRRRRR!
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« Reply #126 on: December 17, 2008, 06:57:17 am » |
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I lived in the Seattle area for 3 years and left just 3 months before Mt. St. Hellens blew. If the wind was blowing the other way my home would have been buried in ash. It's raining here at 36 degrees and supposed to turn to snow. Going to get into the teens tonight. I can't believe you kicked a mountain lion in the head. You must be an offly scarry dude to spook a mountain lion! Out here they have been known to relocate bears who get too close to civilation. They catch them in big green trailers that they bait and haul them off deep into the forrest. I know because when I lived on the res. they parked one right behind my house. Took them a week to get it. The darn thing was ravaging everybodies trash cans.
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« Reply #127 on: December 17, 2008, 09:37:30 am » |
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well Tink its like this... there I was working outside under the Awning at 3:30am (nothing new for me as I am up at all hours of the night!) anyway all of a sudden I hear this comotion start on the other side of the house, I hurd the buckeling of tin just before the screaming and growling started... so I grabed my flashlight and walked swiftly around the back of the house in the direction of the noise and getting mad as I went because something was trying to kill eather one of my cats or something and wasn't doing a very good job of it as it was screaming to beat the band!... by the time I rounded the cornor I was hot... and yelling for what ever it was to "Knock it off!" but it simply ignored my loud yells !
I searched with my flashlight in the direction of the sound and I see one big blue eye but that is all... so I crawled through the fence and ran towards it and threw up my hands and yelled and realised when I did that that what ever it was had a racoon , one of the young ones I had been feeding for the last 6 weeks... on cat food ! <grin> well that didn't make me happy at all ! so there I am standing 3 feet from what ever it is and I finally made out it was a mountian lion that had the racoon by the ear and head , and the little racoon was screaming so loud it was deffining ! well I could see that the mountian lion was adimant about keeping his dinner, but I was pissed and figured if he couldn't do a better job than that he didn't need to eat my buddy ! so I hollered at him again and I got both eyes focused on me then and I hauled off and kicked the mt.lion in the fore-head realy hard... thinking that will make him let go... but nope he was a tanatious and hungry critter evedently, and held on like grim death....
by then I'm so mad I'm ready to bite the silly lion so I hauled off and kicked him as hard as I could kick with my steel cap boots and he definately let go then it hurt my foot so bad I was limping the next day ! but I didn't dare limp then because when the lion let go of his prize there was a shower of pine needles and a flash to under my house, and I asumed it was the racoon... because he was no where to be found... the Mt Lion stagered back and almost fell over and shook his head and then focused on me with a glare and about then is when I thought "OOOOOH SHIT !" which I might add was a bit late in the game !
the only thing I could do then was continue the advance, if I had turned to run he would have had me for lunch ! I kicked at him but missed and he desided to put a bit of distance between that crazy human and himself and loped off down the hill... I made a hasty retreet back tothehouse and got the shotgun and ( limping slightly) I went back out there to find his butt.... sure enough he was not far from where he had the racoon pinned , and I hollered at him and ran towards him and he desided that that crazy human was going to kick him again and split .... I cought up with him at the back cornor of the property and had the 12 guage almost squeezed off when he disipeered over a log .... when I reached the log he was no where to be seen....
I hunted him for about 15 min more but only saw his eyes 2 times, the last time he was a long way awayand makeing good speed away.... and that was all I wanted.... I got my point accross to him and Ihavn't been bothered by him sense ( that I Know of!<GRIN>)
he eather left or is a better hunter now ! HAHAHHAHA
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that was probly one of the most stupid things I've ever done... he was a young Mt Lion, probly only a yearling, but he could have realy done me some bad dammage if he got mad at me !...as it was I bluffed him off.... fortionately !
when he focused on me after I kicked him that look was one I'll never forget ! it was "why you no good...." and my hand went into my pocket and grabbed my pocket knife , if he would have charged we would have fought... he knew it and so did I ... luckily he was young and I out weighed him 2 to 1 HAHAHAHAHA
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« Reply #128 on: December 17, 2008, 07:45:25 pm » |
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Bob,
If that lion was a mommy and had cubs nearby you'd been pushin up daisies by now. We get a lot of bald eagles here. But, the most bald eagles I ever saw was in Florida. Acctually the biggest nusance here is the Meth-Heads. They steal everything. There are many older people who have this conception of retirement of getting a travel trailer and planting it on an acre or more of land and cookin meth to stay high till they die. This whole darn planet is sick. But, getting back to the elctrical generator, are you finding that it is impossible to run one on HHO if it hase dynamos instead of a distributor?
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« Reply #129 on: December 17, 2008, 11:43:20 pm » |
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hehehe it don't matter where ya are the thieves are alwayse out there Tink...<GRIN>
they leave me alone because I think they saw me come out of the house with the shot gun one time when a truck pulled up outside with no lights on......the truck left in a hurry
I will shoot the SOB's ! its my stuff and I ain't gunn'a let some thief take it away!
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well as far as the timeing goes it was causing a problem on the 5hp engine as it has no points at all, strictly a magneto operated igniion... but the 3.5hp is working better but not perfect...
in all honnesty I don't really know yet , as I realy havn't got enough Hydroxy gas to run eather engine... and it will have to wait till spring thaw now...
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I THINK the ignition is a "Show stopper" because the way the 5hp was acting was every other compression stroke Popped the pop off cap... even if it did fire one or 2 times in a row at least one of them was a back fire... I'm sure that is because the timeing is so far advanced... its probly close to 15 to 20 degrees BTDC on that engine... where on the 3.5hp that has points its closer to say 5degrees BTDC.
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I think you can mount the pick up coil on a plate under the flywheel though and just have slots in the bolt patern to allow the timeing change... I thought of that the other day and I am almost positive that will work great... it will have to be 1/4" plate though I bet to make it stable enough to hold the magneto pickup/coil fermly enough to operate.
but there are bolt holes and threds under the flywheel that a person could attach the plate to...and I don't think you'll have to bend the plate in any way... though you may have to shave off some of the engine case to alow this...
I dunno... but it LOOKS possable
... but at least 5LPM is hard to come by..and sense that is what other guys have had to have I will shoot for that number... but I WILL try and see how lean I can make it run
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as well as super rich... so if you don't try to lean it out you could waste Hydroxy gas like there is no tomorrow ! ...
... right now I have a ball valve on a 1/2" piece of pipe welded to a manifold plate and a brass nipple on the pipe between the ball valve and the intake.... thats it... thats my carberator for Hydroxy gas, about as simple as it gets...
I will put a valve on the gas line to control the flow to the engine,
and then very the air intake with the ball valve... thats the plan anyway!
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and Yah your absoulty right... about that Mt. Lion... I was very, very, VERY lucky !
it being a Young and inexperienced critter is all that saved my butt !
I think if it would have been a full sized one I'ed have ran when I saw it ! HAHAHA but I dunno I was pissed... and that in itself scares me ! of all the stupud things to do !
heheheh oh well live and learn I guess ! HAHAHAH
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« Reply #130 on: December 18, 2008, 06:58:04 am » |
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Keep me posted on the genny progress. Maby HHO would work better on a desiel genny. We just aquired a small one that is why I brought that up. It's raining here and I gotta go to work. 36 degrees at 5am. No snow today here at 'Hole in the Clouds' AZ.
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« Reply #131 on: December 27, 2008, 12:30:54 pm » |
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Well, here is a update on my progress on running the B&S on pure hydroxy gas...
No progress at All !
... heres a Pic of the reason <GRIN> that Pile of Snow is my test table and You can barely see the blue B&S 3.5hp waiting paitiantly for me to get to it !
the hydroxy generator is completely burried in the snow and so is my want to play with anything at the moment ! its just too cold out there ! HAHAHHAH
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« Reply #132 on: December 27, 2008, 07:00:03 pm » |
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man, I would love to get my four wheeler and play around in that.
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« Reply #133 on: December 28, 2008, 08:34:22 am » |
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Bob,
That will put a damper on any project! We got a mear 6 inches and they can't even keep the roads here from being snow packed. I ran off the road the other day going to work after passing a slower truck. He must have been laughing at me as he drove by.
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Without 4x4 I wouldn't make it home most days in the winter here and a few days in the summer too with all the mud we get during monsoon that starts every year after the 4th of July and lasts for a month or 2.
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