How much H2 to fuel an engine?

[b1jetmech]

Hello there,

I was wondering what formulas are available to run an engine on H2. For instance what a 350 chevy would take how H2 much to operate? I'm just curious...

Chase

[Bob]

well, I personally like the 2:1 rule of thumb.... for every liter of engine displacement,2 liters of hydroxy gas should be used....
this ratio usually when properly used will get you at least double your current gas milage.
but there is a catch... getting the cars computer to go along with it...because what happens is the newer engines sense the added oxygen in the burned mixture and think the engine is running too lean
so it Adds more gasoline....automatically... so it Nullifies the results...
 but once you get the computer fooled your usually in good shape to reap the benifits of great gasmilage
...in a older carberated engine the ratio is still the same but can be reduced to a 1 to 1  but in this game Hydroxy gas VOLUME rains supream !  if you don;t have the gas you not going to get good gas milage so go for the 2:1 ratio    2LPM per liter of engine displacement...
i.e..... a 4 liter engine would need 8LPM of hydroxy gas...  this is a guess and results vari widely
but it as proven a good method ....
...
Bob........


 

[b1jetmech]

Thanks Bob!

I was also curious to wonder if an engine is ran on straight H2 (no gasoline) how much H2 would be needed?

Some people say 300 liters would power a 4 cylinder which I think is too much. I thought 30 liters would do the job what do you think???

[Bob]

here is a post from another thred I just copied real quick to answer your question....
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Ummm Man I dunno what I did to those figures but it can't be right....so I'll go about it another way......
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I figured that Pilot guys balloon test  shows that it takes 12LPM to idle his 4Liter truck.
halfing that gets 6LPM for a 2liter truck. for idleing
half it again to get 3LPM for 1Liter displacement.... to idle...
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so to idle my 2.5liter toyota it will take 2.5x3LPM=7.5LPM  to idle my pickup.
asumeing Pilot Guys Idle was set at 800rpm we can guesstimate Hydroxy gas useage not under a load....
...2x800=1600RPM...2x7.5=15LPM
...2x1600=3200rpm 2x15=30LPM...
which is about double my original estimates !
...but still obtainable!

 So useing Pilot Guys results it will take me 30LPM to drive my truck on 100% hydroxy gas!
... However I am sure that can be leaned out much more than that !
Hydrogen and Hydroxy gas both will still ignite even being so rich that it would flood a gasoline engine....but Hydrogen and Hydroxy gas just keeps on going.... so its possable that his mixture was 30 times richer than it needed to be to run the engine ...and indeed I expect that is the case unless he made up some valve to adjust the flow of the balloon into the engine and adjusted it as lean as it could possably go. which I doubt as it would have taken quite a few trial runs to accomplish that task
... How about it Pilot Guy... what did ya DO ?
thats very incurrageing info ya gave us !
THANK YOU !

Bob............
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so as You can see its completely dependant on the engine size
if you take the 1 liter figures above ...3LPM to idle a 1liter displacement engine
you can mutiply that to what ever your engine displacement is and get a rough approximation on what it will take to IDLE IT...... increaseing the RPM is something else intirely
and my estimations there can be way off, but should be somewhat close .

30LPM to run my truck on 100% Hydroxy gas sounds high to me, but even if it takes that much its well worth it !
....
Bob........

[b1jetmech]

Cool Bob,

I read some estimating it would take 200 liters to powers a 4 cylinder which I couldn't agree with.

BTW, I will post pictures of my new dry cell...soon

Chase

[Bob]

Yah the Nay sayers always use the engine displacement in their calculations and you cannot do that simply because the displacement is not being filled by the hydroxy gas...not even close...
its just a Puff of hydroxy gas every time the cylinders fire !
.... why they don't reason that out , I have no idea !
...
Bob..........