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Cowboy
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« on: November 07, 2008, 04:16:38 pm »

Okay, so here's a thought going off of several designs...

What is you made a series plate design, using Fishers' free float theory?  Make every other plate a 'floater' so it can find the right resonant freq.  It would constantly vary voltage between each cell, which would in turn, act as a semi-pulsating DC signal, giving it the freq change required for good production.  Won't really be pulsating, but it will be changing.  Kind of like AC, but keeping polarities the same.  It's a thought...  Has anyone tried it?
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 06:24:20 am »

Thing is cowboy,  no one has yet attempted to describe this resonance,  or where it comes from in what is purely a steady DC circuit. I for one will be very interested to see this description.
It all goes back to LtCFisher's first posts about the tube cell that was producing oodles of gas at MicroAmps.
That seems to have faded away.
Pity,  It would have been interesting to reproduce.

Manta
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 10:54:49 am »

There is a lot of theory out there regarding the resonant frequency of water.  I don't have the test equipment availible to test that theory, but it does make sense.  Everything has a resonant freq.  Finding that freq is troublesome and is not an exact science relative to all of the different water sources there are.  Pure water (distilled, de-mineralized) would give you a base at which to start, but contaminants would change it.  Making a 'floating' cell would allow the freq to be found naturally.  Like a coupler to a transmitter.  With a DC source, which in theory doesn't create freqs, it is a little harder.  But even DC creates noise.  In the cell I described, the floating plates would move back and forth from magnetism, which would create an artificial freq because the voltage between cells would constantly change, even though total voltage seen by the whole unit would remain contant.  Hopefully the magnetism wouldn't get so strong as to lock the plate in one position.  That's why it's theory.  Wink  I hope that gave a picture of the idea of a DC freq, if not I can elaborate a little more.
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 11:01:20 am »

Cowboy,

I can see where you are coming from. As you say,  testing and measuring could be problematic.
One of the many things I would like to try is using high(ish) frequency to drive a cell. Maybe if it can be adjusted via a choke or similar to hit resonance at some usable frequency,  then a new low amperage method could evolve.

Trouble is there are so many things to do and not enough time.

Manta
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 11:03:01 am »

I need to find my 'pulsating DC' topic on the old forum and bring it over here.  It would help you in creating that high freq.  Maybe just a base for building on, but ideas just the same.
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2008, 11:22:19 am »

Maybe a 555 timer circuit  and a couple of high current transistors ?  and big heat sinks. Grin

Manta

By the way,  have you noticed that Dan is back on line.  Porn free. ?
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« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2008, 11:26:52 am »

Just noticed when I went to find that other topic.  Gonna have to go say hi at some point today.
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